Comments on: What Do You Want to Read About Seaside or Smalltalk?

By: Ramon Leon

Ramon Leon — Sat, 04 Nov 2006 17:22:14 +0000

Thanks, and yes, I’ve been a bit side tracked lately, busy with other things, but I do plan on writing more about databases soon.

By: krishna

krishna — Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:47:01 +0000

I enjoy your posts thoroughly,
Can you talk about seaside and persistance to databases(Mysql, Postgres). Thank You.

By: Ramon Leon

Ramon Leon — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:01:17 +0000

Yup, this is what I plan to do. Feel free to send me suggestions for tutorials, if there’s something specific you’re looking to learn. I just might write it up.

By: Kel Graham

Kel Graham — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:59:55 +0000

I like the exploratory posts - you finding out what worked for you with regards to seaside & squeak. I’m in the “programming after work” camp and appreciate the insight you provide into doing real-world things with seaside and squeak.

Given the seaside docs aren’t the most expansive (i.e. what do I do after having followed the ‘counter’ tutorial?), how about a few more code examples, or even (time permitting) a small tutorial every now and then?

By: Ramon Leon

Ramon Leon — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:48:55 +0000

Glad you found what you needed.

By: Mark Miller

Mark Miller — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:25:04 +0000

Answering my own question Re: Is there a framework for web services? You answered it at: Seaside for the .Net Developer

And there’s documentation on how to use it at the SoapClient link in your post.

By: Mark Miller

Mark Miller — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:04:09 +0000

What I’d like to see is some discussion of how to connect a Seaside app. to external resources, like a database, and an XML web service (is there a framework for this?). I know there are database drivers, but I have yet to find any documentation that talks about how to use them. You wrote a post on using ODBC with SQL Server, which was informative. What about MySQL and PostGreSQL?

By: Ramon Leon

Ramon Leon — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:40:12 +0000

Because I want to help the Smalltalk/Squeak/Seaside community grow, so I’d rather write something others find useful in pursuit of that goal, than simply spew stuff for my own satisfaction. I also enjoy teaching, so in writing for others, I am writing for myself, in a way.

By: Hiren

Hiren — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:52:06 +0000

Why do you want to write what others want to read ! Don’t you write for yourself ! ?

By: Ramon Leon

Ramon Leon — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:18:49 +0000

I’ve never actually used Dolphin, I’m a Squeaker, but anything I write on Seaside should apply.

I think I’ve been doing pretty well on titles, it’s something I definitely think about before writing. I’ve also gone back and changed a title here or there to make it more clear.

I appreciate the feedback, I’ll definitely keep all this in mind for future posts. Maybe I’ll shorten up the blog posts a bit, the shorter ones do seem to get more traffic, so I need to get to the point quickly.

By: Lidell

Lidell — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:12:33 +0000

I’m new to Smallltalk and Seaside, and I would very much like to read more getting started in Seaside, especially using Dolphin D6. The tutorials on seaside.st are good, but still require a great deal of study to figure out all the main elements and concepts of Seaside. Can you illustrate these concepts piecemeal, in small bite-size chunks? Similar to those code snippets in Ruby Cookbook or Python Cookbook books, which offer small half-page samples of working code to explain to illustrate a feature.

This is one of hte few blogs that covers Dolphin and Seaside, so you can offer an invaluable service here.

By: Shawn MacIntyre

Shawn MacIntyre — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:39:54 +0000

What would I like to read?

I would like to see someone do an exploration of how all the little peices of Seaside fit together … the life cycle of objects from when the page is requested to the result is returned. In my learning of Seaside (and smalltalk) I have been trying to figure this out. I can create great pages easily with Seaside, but I am still a newbie and do fully understand what’s happening under the hood. I am curious though… ther just doesn’t seem to be a lot writen on it.

By: eric

eric — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:30:51 +0000

Having a smalltalk blog myself, and being a reader of blogs, here is what I tend to like.

topic-related posts. If a blog is purporting to be a programming language blog, it should generally stick to programming languages. I’ll remove it from my feed list if it starts doing politics, etc.

descriptive titles - I usually skip posts from feeds which are vaguely titled unless I follow the author closely.

terser/direct posts - If a post has a lot of good info, and gets long, that’s ok. But I would prefer several posts on that topic. It’s hard for me to grasp the point of blog posts which say something in the 4th paragraph like “…which brings me to my main point…”

my two cents